Mar 10, 2008, 02:42 PM // 14:42
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#21
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In Baltar's head
Guild: Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]
Profession: Mo/
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Can you imagine all of us here with our real names as user names and our addresses etc in our profile? lol.
On the other hand, telemarketers should be required to register all their personal information publicly, since they have no qualms about using ours and calling incessantly. Wouldnt mind calling some of them back at inconvenient times.
Last edited by Aera Lure; Mar 10, 2008 at 02:46 PM // 14:46..
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43
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#22
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: R/Mo
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I think the only thing that should require any sort of verification is adult websites....
THINK OF THE CHILDREN, WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44
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#23
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus
Profession: N/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
I think the only thing that should require any sort of verification is adult websites....
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I still want to see the domain ending .xxx, it would make blocking porn sites through NetNannies so much simplier, if taken up by the majority of sites (free migration from .com to .xxx?).
On the Telemarketer note, my homeline is unlisted and, under the Data Protection Act (<3), if we were to get unsolicited calls when we have specifically requested for our details to not be passeds discretion as to the amount) or prison sentences. Privacy is important, now get off my phone line!
Last edited by Tatile; Mar 10, 2008 at 02:48 PM // 14:48..
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46
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#24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Netherlands
Guild: No Inherent Effect [NiE]
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1 this should be in Offtopic & absurd.
2 Teh internetz is global, don't care about kentucky nor US laws.
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47
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#25
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The 5th Celestial Boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
But people still wouldn't do it, it's impossible, everyone registers under fake names and addresses anyway, and even if we didn't, who's to check?
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You will need to send your passport, dental records, driving license and 5 years worth of utility bills to the forum administrator, who will forward copies on to a little man who works for the government in a darkened room who checks where you live and how many £10 notes you've handled in the last 3 years. After 6-8 weeks the forum administrator will get back to you and confirm your request to register with the site, and inform you that your government will accept or decline your request after they've checked where you live on Microsoft Autoroute. The forum administrator then has to (by law) burn your passport and driving license, and sell your utility bills to mailing companies who will spam your house for the next 10 years. They will send your dental records to Antarctica to be buried in a time capsule. When the time comes for your request to join the forum to be accepted, three government operatives will arrive at your home to make sure that you are of human origin with a variety of experiments, before registering your username on the forum, and sending you a congratulations email (with a link you have to click to confirm your registration). If your request to join the forum is denied...you will be sent to Greenland and forced to complete 15 years community service.
It's a slow procedure, but I'm sure it'll work like a charm.
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47
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#26
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In Baltar's head
Guild: Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
1 this should be in Offtopic & absurd.
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Well, its definitely absurd.
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48
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#27
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In my own little world, looking at yours
Guild: Only Us[NotU]
Profession: E/
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If they can't make this work to stop "cyber-bullying", they will change it to "Protect our Kids", you know, from those online predators.
It won't happen overnight, might take 5 to 10 years, but now that it has been suggested, watch out.
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51
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#28
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: A very large, cozy virtual world.
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Kentucky is good for goats, and that's about it.
People don't think anymore, even those in the government.
If I weren't mistaken, I'd say that an intelligence sapping parasite has infected all but 3 or 4 people in the United States and Europe. Other countries seem safe at times, but then I recall Kenya. They're only good for lions.
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Mar 10, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57
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#29
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
... after we've finished with a certain crazy cult, looks like we've got to pay a visit to Kentucky =]
And to all the Americans here... wow. It must suck living in the same country as so many zealous self-serving ignorant asshats. You have my sympathies.
brb, saving the internets!
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canada
Guild: Guy In Real Life [GIRL]
Profession: W/E
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This is the kind of thinking that makes me want to grab a hammer...
a) If this is anything more than a publicity stunt (which I highly doubt) then it could be very interesting. This is just the sort of bandwagon that a whole bunch of Senators who do not know what the internet is would jump on.
b) I will give it 20 minutes from this post for his personal data and website to be hacked.
c) They will have a hell of a time enforcing this one. My best guess would be that it would only apply to forums or websites that are (.us). It would be the only thing they could have control over without inciting an international incident. The bill would not have legal jurisdiction over .com, as it is people all over the world. And if they tried to go after .ca or anything else, well they could go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO themselves.
oh yeah, and lets just say this gives living in Canada another plus!
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12
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#31
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A little chalet outside Drok's
Guild: Natural Born Killaz
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Big brother is waaatchingggggg.
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14
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#32
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Black Widows of Death
Profession: W/Mo
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If this came out of CA I would think it more a possibilty. But Kentucky humm The guy must be pissed about his local newspaper forum. My guess someone flamed him and he wants to know who did it
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19
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#34
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK
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cmon now, it's Kentucky, you know they just got them "interwebs" stuff. Either way, the anonymity of the internet can be a hindrance but it is far outweighed by the positives it provides
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20
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#35
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Profession: R/
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I don't even understand how this is supposed to stop online bullying. Not only could someone just supply false info, but I don't think any bully would actually care about someone knowing their identity. They certainly don't care in schools. There's also the problem with the fact that they wouldn't have jurisdiction to do anything about it for people who live outside the US.
If this were ever introduced, all that will happen is that all online parties will move their content outside the US to avoid the ridiculous law and the fines that come with it. I can also see people's personal security drop to non-existent. Stalkers would be able to easily find their prey through this handy, new database. Paedophiles will also have a much easier time. Psychopaths will easily be able to find anyone they have a disagreement with and deal with them "approprately". I can sure see a bright future coming with the passing of this bill.
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24
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#36
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: N/Mo
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I agree, Canada FTW
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
I think the only thing that should require any sort of verification is adult websites....
THINK OF THE CHILDREN, WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
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QFT.
Silly Americans trying to regulate the internet. It's like Governator trying to ban pornography off the net (IIRC? or was it the whole administration... can't remember, too lazy to verify info). It's like getting a gold outta a reward chest in SF; you want it, you can even dream of it, but it ain't gonna happen.
People have a choice to be anonymous. I'm partially myself; people know my real name, about my family, the city I live, but no freaking way I'm giving my REAL address on the net. We've had to make our phone number private (and we're still getting phone marketing, which makes me punch babies) because if my husband's parents know, we're done for (and I'm dead serious; they're freaks, I'm sorry but they are).
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28
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#37
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sab
Impossible to enforce, not to mention it'll cause more problems than it solves. Really, has this guy even used the internet before?
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Actually not at all. They could setup state and local internet ID card stations like Drivers licenses stations now. Everyone including children who use the internet would be required to have one of these ID cards and input it into the ISP system everytime they logged on (of course it could be stored just like our passwords are now as well). It would also be another source of income for states and local cites/towns. I've always thought this was a good idea to not only stop the bullying, but, everyone would know where everyone else lived and who they were and that would stop a lot more things like those that would respond very negatively to my post now and call me names, etc. I'll support it /signed Then when someone says "Make Me" online, that could very well happen since they can no longer hide behind anonmity (sp).
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32
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#38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Slovenia
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
Actually not at all. They could setup state and local internet ID card stations like Drivers licenses stations now. Everyone including children who use the internet would be required to have one of these ID cards and input it into the ISP system everytime they logged on (of course it could be stored just like our passwords are now as well). It would also be another source of income for states and local cites/towns. I've always thought this was a good idea to not only stop the bullying, but, everyone would know where everyone else lived and who they were and that would stop a lot more things like those that would respond very negatively to my post now and call me names, etc. I'll support it /signed Then when someone says "Make Me" online, that could very well happen since they can no longer hide behind anonmity (sp).
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I really hope you don't believe all this. Identity theft rings any bell?
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34
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#39
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The edge of reason
Guild: I don't play any more.
Profession: W/E
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@ Knightfall: If you keep making those faces, your face will someday be frozen like that
If this law does get passed, just another reason for me to move to Canada as soon as I can... And one could say I have, friends ^^ up there.
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Mar 10, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39
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#40
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest
Profession: W/
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Well, I'll be the only one here who thinks the internet anonymity brings out the worst in people then.
Those that should be anonymous aren't (see China) and those that shouldn't (spammers, pirates,...) are.
The problem, however, is indeed enforcability of the act. The internet doesn't work in a way that would allow this without a global internet authority - of which there isn't one...
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